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	<title>Comments on: Phantom on the Horizon by The Fall of Troy</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Kissner</title>
		<link>http://seventytwopinconnector.com/2008/12/02/phantom-on-the-horizon-by-the-fall-of-troy/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kissner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think Phantom pales in comparison to the original Ghostship EP, but you wrote a nice review anyway. My take on the new EP: http://akissner.blogspot.com/2008/12/fall-of-troy-phantom-on-horizon.html

(sorry if i accidentally double posted)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think Phantom pales in comparison to the original Ghostship EP, but you wrote a nice review anyway. My take on the new EP: <a href="http://akissner.blogspot.com/2008/12/fall-of-troy-phantom-on-horizon.html" rel="nofollow">http://akissner.blogspot.com/2008/12/fall-of-troy-phantom-on-horizon.html</a></p>
<p>(sorry if i accidentally double posted)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kissner</title>
		<link>http://seventytwopinconnector.com/2008/12/02/phantom-on-the-horizon-by-the-fall-of-troy/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kissner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think Phantom pales in comparison to the original Ghostship EP, but you wrote a nice review anyway. My take on the new EP: http://allthingsgo.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think Phantom pales in comparison to the original Ghostship EP, but you wrote a nice review anyway. My take on the new EP: <a href="http://allthingsgo.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://allthingsgo.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: skizzicarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>skizzicarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have fun!</description>
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		<title>By: prancog</title>
		<link>http://seventytwopinconnector.com/2008/12/02/phantom-on-the-horizon-by-the-fall-of-troy/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>prancog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of, I need to review some Magma, so get ready for that this week hopefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of, I need to review some Magma, so get ready for that this week hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: prancog</title>
		<link>http://seventytwopinconnector.com/2008/12/02/phantom-on-the-horizon-by-the-fall-of-troy/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>prancog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was saying that I don&#039;t care what anyone puts my favorite bands into though. A lot of people call The Fall of Troy screamo, and good for them. It doesn&#039;t matter to me or bother me because everyone is going to put shit into genres. I even put Underoath into a genre called shitty scene music. It doesnt matter to their fans for some reason.

I do understand where you&#039;re coming from though, and my being hostile is really only sarcasm, which is undetected by keystrokes.
I know what you mean, and I&#039;ll be changing the post-punk to post-hardcore, which is essentially what I meant, but was just typing quickly and figured it wouldn&#039;t matter when I looked over the review. So, now we need a new fight over something...

Post-punk vs. Zhuelist?
I give a vote for Zhuelist music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was saying that I don&#8217;t care what anyone puts my favorite bands into though. A lot of people call The Fall of Troy screamo, and good for them. It doesn&#8217;t matter to me or bother me because everyone is going to put shit into genres. I even put Underoath into a genre called shitty scene music. It doesnt matter to their fans for some reason.</p>
<p>I do understand where you&#8217;re coming from though, and my being hostile is really only sarcasm, which is undetected by keystrokes.<br />
I know what you mean, and I&#8217;ll be changing the post-punk to post-hardcore, which is essentially what I meant, but was just typing quickly and figured it wouldn&#8217;t matter when I looked over the review. So, now we need a new fight over something&#8230;</p>
<p>Post-punk vs. Zhuelist?<br />
I give a vote for Zhuelist music.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, the whole death metal and Kenny G comparison was just a point of reference to see how off you were. Don&#039;t know where you gathered that I was attacking people who listen to a variety of things as I am one who enjoys a wide variety of things...

Also, post-punk is not necessarily just a genre, it was musical movement, say, like the British Invasion, or grunge (/shudder).

Don&#039;t see where such hostility came from you and your counterpart, all I said is that a remark like that, comparing a absolute shit trend w/ something influential like the post-punk movement, may make you look like an asshole.

I am simply doing exactly what you were doing in your review... &quot;so you like Underoath and their “screams”? Are they xxxhxcxxx? Do you like it in your butt?&quot;

You don&#039;t want people to lump one of your favorite bands, in this case Fall of Troy, into the same genre as Underoath, just because they scream and are pretty heavy.

Well... aren&#039;t I doing the same thing? Wanting others to not misinform and lump some of my beloved bands into the same arena as The Devil Wears Prada.

So, I&#039;ll just go be a fuckshit now.

&lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the whole death metal and Kenny G comparison was just a point of reference to see how off you were. Don&#8217;t know where you gathered that I was attacking people who listen to a variety of things as I am one who enjoys a wide variety of things&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, post-punk is not necessarily just a genre, it was musical movement, say, like the British Invasion, or grunge (/shudder).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t see where such hostility came from you and your counterpart, all I said is that a remark like that, comparing a absolute shit trend w/ something influential like the post-punk movement, may make you look like an asshole.</p>
<p>I am simply doing exactly what you were doing in your review&#8230; &#8220;so you like Underoath and their “screams”? Are they xxxhxcxxx? Do you like it in your butt?&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want people to lump one of your favorite bands, in this case Fall of Troy, into the same genre as Underoath, just because they scream and are pretty heavy.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; aren&#8217;t I doing the same thing? Wanting others to not misinform and lump some of my beloved bands into the same arena as The Devil Wears Prada.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll just go be a fuckshit now.</p>
<p>&lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: skizzicarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>skizzicarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at this knob getting his nuts in a bunch over the semantics of a genre.
i should rant at you for acting like titles for varying types of music matter.
DON&#039;T BE A VIGO, ANTI-GREG!
BE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AND HELP US SMASH THE TOP OF THE MUSEUM SO WE CAN DROP DOWN AND SAVE DANA AND OSCAR FROM- i&#039;m forgetting what i initially set out for with this metaphor.
Basically, don&#039;t be a fuckshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look at this knob getting his nuts in a bunch over the semantics of a genre.<br />
i should rant at you for acting like titles for varying types of music matter.<br />
DON&#8217;T BE A VIGO, ANTI-GREG!<br />
BE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AND HELP US SMASH THE TOP OF THE MUSEUM SO WE CAN DROP DOWN AND SAVE DANA AND OSCAR FROM- i&#8217;m forgetting what i initially set out for with this metaphor.<br />
Basically, don&#8217;t be a fuckshit.</p>
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		<title>By: prancog</title>
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		<dc:creator>prancog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - I know that I&#039;m an asshole too. I was exaggerating anyway. Lighten up a bit, and maybe we can all lighten up. Remember, anger in New York caused the slime to increase and Vigo almost destroyed the world. So let&#039;s love not hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; I know that I&#8217;m an asshole too. I was exaggerating anyway. Lighten up a bit, and maybe we can all lighten up. Remember, anger in New York caused the slime to increase and Vigo almost destroyed the world. So let&#8217;s love not hate.</p>
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		<title>By: prancog</title>
		<link>http://seventytwopinconnector.com/2008/12/02/phantom-on-the-horizon-by-the-fall-of-troy/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>prancog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam- thanks for the comment, that show was amazing.

I wasn&#039;t talking about all those old school bands that started the trend... those guys know what music means. I was talking about the current scene of bands that throw &quot;post&quot; before a genre such as post-hardcore, post-indie (yes, I&#039;ve heard a band call themselves that), post-rock (which doesnt make sense). I apologize for throwing words. Those bands you mention in the actual post-punk genre I just consider them punk. I try not to put these detailed labels on the groups that I like because its bullshit the way everyone categorizes everything.

You know The Killers call themselves &quot;post-punk&quot; at times? Isn&#039;t that insulting to you? That is the kind of post-punk I was talking about.

Also, you are getting GI-FUCKING-GANTICALLY angry about a genre. A genre that I listed while thinking about CURRENT bands and indiefucks that are into all that stuff. I have absolute respect and love for Joy Division, Gang of Four, and Sonic Youth (who probably also fall into that category- let me know if I am GI-FUCKING-GANTICALLY off). And by reading your comment, I just now looked into Mission of Burma and enjoy them immensely- so thanks for that.

Oh, and you&#039;re the one saying how people don&#039;t like extreme different genres, but I just listened to See You Next Tuesday, John Zorn, Kaada, Johnny Guitar Watson, Volta, and Rhapsody of Fire while getting a shower and getting dressed this morning. I don&#039;t give a fuck about genres. Just give me some music with heart in it.

Oh, and picky assholes like you who actually care what you label bands under are ruining music anyway. And I&#039;m sure you&#039;re enough of an asshole to continually check back on this site for when I respond... and you might even respond back. I&#039;m ashamed that my name is Greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam- thanks for the comment, that show was amazing.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about all those old school bands that started the trend&#8230; those guys know what music means. I was talking about the current scene of bands that throw &#8220;post&#8221; before a genre such as post-hardcore, post-indie (yes, I&#8217;ve heard a band call themselves that), post-rock (which doesnt make sense). I apologize for throwing words. Those bands you mention in the actual post-punk genre I just consider them punk. I try not to put these detailed labels on the groups that I like because its bullshit the way everyone categorizes everything.</p>
<p>You know The Killers call themselves &#8220;post-punk&#8221; at times? Isn&#8217;t that insulting to you? That is the kind of post-punk I was talking about.</p>
<p>Also, you are getting GI-FUCKING-GANTICALLY angry about a genre. A genre that I listed while thinking about CURRENT bands and indiefucks that are into all that stuff. I have absolute respect and love for Joy Division, Gang of Four, and Sonic Youth (who probably also fall into that category- let me know if I am GI-FUCKING-GANTICALLY off). And by reading your comment, I just now looked into Mission of Burma and enjoy them immensely- so thanks for that.</p>
<p>Oh, and you&#8217;re the one saying how people don&#8217;t like extreme different genres, but I just listened to See You Next Tuesday, John Zorn, Kaada, Johnny Guitar Watson, Volta, and Rhapsody of Fire while getting a shower and getting dressed this morning. I don&#8217;t give a fuck about genres. Just give me some music with heart in it.</p>
<p>Oh, and picky assholes like you who actually care what you label bands under are ruining music anyway. And I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re enough of an asshole to continually check back on this site for when I respond&#8230; and you might even respond back. I&#8217;m ashamed that my name is Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have some shit to learn my friend. I couldn&#039;t give two shits about The Fall of Troy, so I am just going to comment on one aspect of your review that I find absolutely insulting.

Nobody, absolutely nobody that enjoys post-punk enjoys scene metal. Those two genres couldn&#039;t be further from each other. It&#039;s like saying someone who enjoys death metal enjoys Kenny G.

You compared scene metal, a modern music trend, a very, very awful and shitty musical trend, w/ post-punk, a musical movement which had a GI-FUCKING-GANTIC influence on modern music, especially modern independent music, as independent music would not exist if it weren&#039;t for bands like Mission of Burma, Gang of Four, Wire, Bauhaus, The Birthday Party, This Heat, The Fall, Pere Ubu, Magazine, Joy Division.

Don&#039;t blindly throw around words. Do some research. Just a few seconds of interwebz searching informed me that Fall of Troy are on or were at one time on an independent label. Now, putting post-punk, again which is partly responsible for independent music, independent labels, the DIY ethic, etc. on the same level as scene metal? Well, that certainly makes you look like an asshole. John Peel would be rolling in his grave.

Take the time and educate yourself before you toss around words you don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have some shit to learn my friend. I couldn&#8217;t give two shits about The Fall of Troy, so I am just going to comment on one aspect of your review that I find absolutely insulting.</p>
<p>Nobody, absolutely nobody that enjoys post-punk enjoys scene metal. Those two genres couldn&#8217;t be further from each other. It&#8217;s like saying someone who enjoys death metal enjoys Kenny G.</p>
<p>You compared scene metal, a modern music trend, a very, very awful and shitty musical trend, w/ post-punk, a musical movement which had a GI-FUCKING-GANTIC influence on modern music, especially modern independent music, as independent music would not exist if it weren&#8217;t for bands like Mission of Burma, Gang of Four, Wire, Bauhaus, The Birthday Party, This Heat, The Fall, Pere Ubu, Magazine, Joy Division.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blindly throw around words. Do some research. Just a few seconds of interwebz searching informed me that Fall of Troy are on or were at one time on an independent label. Now, putting post-punk, again which is partly responsible for independent music, independent labels, the DIY ethic, etc. on the same level as scene metal? Well, that certainly makes you look like an asshole. John Peel would be rolling in his grave.</p>
<p>Take the time and educate yourself before you toss around words you don&#8217;t know.</p>
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